Physical Paper Label on the tape says: Bell Laboratories, Inc. UNIX Circuit Design System Version III May 6, 1981 Hi Ron, I mentioned to you at USENIX that there is a hope that we might be able to free up the old UNIX Draw package and give it to the PUPS folks. Dennis Ritchie suggested we might try to take the approach that it was part of the V7 intellectual property that AT&T sold to Novell, who in turn sold it to SCO (and you folks are now selling to Caldera). Anyway before we get another company involved, I'd love to see if we can get path to output cleared up. My part of the bargain as to see if I could recover the bits. Well, I was able to get my hands (temporarily) on a tri-density 9-track and I have found a distribution dated May 6, 1981 which maps to the 3rd version of the system. And I have read the tape!! It turns out, I may know of a later version but it's not clear that we can recover those bits (although I'm still trying). I believe the version I found is post Belle and Greg Chesson and my hacking of the Tek41xx terminals. The other version I know about is a copy that was around Whippany and it may have some later updates - but again I do not have access to that tape at the moment and the media quality is unknown. Clem Cole clemc@mro.cpqcorp.net